Comments on: Electric Trials Riding Evolves with the Yamaha TY-E 2.0 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials Motorcycles Distilled Thu, 05 Jan 2023 20:57:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2 By: Stuart https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-470237 Thu, 05 Jan 2023 20:57:14 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-470237 So the bike went an came 2nd in the world FIM-e trials championship. https://www.totalmotorcycle.com/kenichi-kuroyama-finishes-fim-trial-e-cup-as-runner-up-with-ty-e-electric-trials-bike/ And it sounds like it didn’t win not for lack of the bike being any good. So now the machine is proven, I hope we will see it in dealerships soon.

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By: stonezone https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468609 Thu, 07 Jul 2022 08:29:27 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468609 In reply to Asphaltaddict33.

I have a 22 EM comp and it’s so good. Clutch feels exactly like my gasgas (as does the bike’s ergonomics). I think for the average rider, the clutch, plus only 1 gear makes it just that much easier. For me, sthe clutch is critical, dont think i’d ever want a bike for technical terrain without a clutch…road or track different story but i dont go there.

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By: imtoomuch https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468406 Tue, 24 May 2022 20:07:26 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468406 In reply to Adrian M.

You act like EVs don’t need oil and other maintenance. They do.

Gas is expensive, but guess what. Electricity is also slated to have record increases this year. And as more people switch to EVs the price of electricity is going to skyrocket. I don’t think you’ve factored that one in, have you?

EVs will NOT save off-road vehicles from environmental regulations.

1. EVs are not silent. A pack of them on a race track will definitely not be silent.
2. EVs still kick up dust.
3. EVs will still cause erosion.
4. EVs will still kill rare mites and plants and other stuff that PETA and environmentalists will insist are imperative to the survival of the planet.

I don’t think you’ve factored any of those in.

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By: Asphaltaddict33 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468234 Tue, 19 Apr 2022 12:34:49 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468234 In reply to LeDelmo.

If you are impatient you can buy a very similar electric trials or trail bike from French company Electric Motion right now. They offer a real clutch and have been refining the bikes over the last few model years. I have the big OSET trials bike and an EM is likely next for me.

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By: Asphaltaddict33 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468233 Tue, 19 Apr 2022 12:30:03 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468233 In reply to Ted.

How is caring for an electric power source any heavier burden than properly preparing a liquid fueled bike for long term storage?

Once electric bikes are mainstream, there will be proper lithium battery maintainers for sale, then it will literally be plug it up and no worries. Not like I worry right now, storing lithium batteries so they dont die doesn’t take many IQ points.

Also, battery prices are dropping quick. I got an additional battery for my OSET 24R for half the price that the manufacturer offers a spare, and its half the size and 65% of the weight… the progress is real and the fun factor is off the charts.

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By: Asphaltaddict33 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468232 Tue, 19 Apr 2022 12:24:26 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468232 In reply to SP2.

EM has an actual diaphragm clutch on offer as well.

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By: LeDelmo https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468157 Sun, 03 Apr 2022 02:41:11 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468157 I am very interested in this.

I have always thought Enduro and Trials bikes would make for the best platforms to introduce and advance Electric Motorcycle industry.

I do hope this becomes a full production model.

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By: imtoomuch https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468155 Sun, 03 Apr 2022 01:23:36 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468155 Trials bikes are probably the perfect application for electric power. You want the instant, but controllable torque and range really isn’t typically a major concern for trials riders..

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By: imtoomuch https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468154 Sun, 03 Apr 2022 01:23:36 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468154 Trials bikes are probably the perfect application for electric power. You want the instant, but controllable torque and range really isn’t typically a major concern for trials riders..

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By: Adrian M https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468130 Fri, 01 Apr 2022 14:29:25 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468130 In reply to Ted.

You make it sound like the ICE bike doesn’t need oil, fuel, also a battery (in some cases, albeit way smaller), periodic if not constant maintenance like top end overhauls, valve work, etc. Did I mention how freaking EXPENSIVE “petrol” has become? I don’t think you’ve factored that one in, have you?

For off-road, this is it my man. This is what is going to save dirt biking from imminent noise and environmental legislature, everywhere. Wake up. Plus think of the deer you’ll bag when you creep up on one of these. Aha!

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By: Adrian M https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468129 Fri, 01 Apr 2022 14:22:00 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468129 In reply to Our_Man_In_Bangkok.

You know it. Although, on the flip side, think of how fun it’ll be to hack your bike! Get all the paywall content for free and feel like you “stuck it” to the man. LOL! Pretty much the same thing we do now with all the “modding” and what not, right? I’m thinking of all those bikes that come to the U.S. with like 30 ponies less than Europe and Asia. I’m thinking Kawi H2 and the likes.

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By: Ted https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468080 Thu, 31 Mar 2022 04:49:26 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468080 Your petrol trials bike will run for years and sit in your garage as good as new. Your electric bike will need the battery constantly maintained and when it goes bad, that’ll be $9999.00 thank you.

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By: Our_Man_In_Bangkok https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468079 Wed, 30 Mar 2022 21:47:57 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468079 In reply to Ryan Donahue.

Ran a recluse on a KTM 500… riding that without clutch action…. it was not the same.
Perhaps with time you may develop a technique… but that thing came off and regular clutch won the day.

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By: Our_Man_In_Bangkok https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468078 Wed, 30 Mar 2022 21:45:22 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468078 In reply to Adrian M.

ahh, but then they will probably be officially licensed and another subscription needed.

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By: Adrian M https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468074 Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:33:51 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468074 In reply to Darren636 is banned .

Yes, she is.

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By: Adrian M https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468073 Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:33:32 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468073 In reply to Our_Man_In_Bangkok.

Tie-Fighter would be a huge one. MotoGP bike,1990s F1 car, classic Ferrari, etc. OMG! I’d have a curated playlist to choose from. Talk about a rabbit hole

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By: Adrian M https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468072 Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:29:50 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468072 In reply to SP2.

That makes sense. It is the pinnacle of motorcycle control and balance. I’m sure those guys can sense if the bike is off by a couple of pounds or even less.

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By: Ryan Donahue https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468070 Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:31:32 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468070 In reply to Adrian M.

On the Altas, it wasn’t necessary. With plenty of power on tap and proper mapping, those bikes loft the front wheel with the need of a clutch. Additionally, the power delivery was so smooth, no clutch needed for feathering in the power.

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By: Our_Man_In_Bangkok https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468066 Wed, 30 Mar 2022 07:32:20 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468066 In reply to Adrian M.

Let’s hope it functions as a clutch.
I am with you on the engine sounds… As I have stated before… I would prefer a Tie-Fighter
:-)

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By: Darren636 is banned https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468063 Wed, 30 Mar 2022 04:01:05 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468063 Now that is clean !

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By: Campi the Bat https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468061 Wed, 30 Mar 2022 01:12:00 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468061 In reply to Adrian M.

Honestly the issue with your idea would be the same as having no clutch & flywheel combo at all: experienced trials riders wouldn’t readily be used to using it, hence they’d perform worse with it, hence they’d dislike it and it wouldn’t get a fair shake in competition.

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By: SP2 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468060 Wed, 30 Mar 2022 01:05:44 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468060 In reply to Adrian M.

Electric motion tried a ‘digital’ clutch and it works ok. It’s on/off, so no feathering is possible.
For more advanced trials riding engine inertia and clutch feel are needed.

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By: Adrian M https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468055 Tue, 29 Mar 2022 21:51:13 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468055 In reply to Our_Man_In_Bangkok.

Dude. As Campi pointed out it looks like it has one. They should be advertising the hell out of that feature. I hope all this new e-bike tech comes with stuff like that. I also want speakers that play whatever engine’s exhaust note I want. Terblanche did that and it was really neat and fun. He used a WWII bomber’s engine. LOL!

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By: Adrian M https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468054 Tue, 29 Mar 2022 21:42:06 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468054 In reply to Campi the Bat.

I totally missed that. Thank you! That’s why that line looks a bit thicker than the front brake line. I wonder if my idea is lighter though?

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By: Our_Man_In_Bangkok https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/dirt/yamaha-ty-e-2-0-electric-trials/#comment-468052 Tue, 29 Mar 2022 21:38:11 +0000 https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/?p=210460#comment-468052 Now this is an ideal match between the sport and the tech.
Although, (as Adrian M pointed out) clutch action is a critical element in this and other off-road fun.

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